I read all your stuff and am much impressed with the depth of research and thought that goes into your message.
However, it seems sometimes that, rather than a different angle viewed, opposition is portrayed by you to have no vision at all. I too have offered this face and I recognize it well. Others may disagree and still understand. I am going to be sorry I wrote these words as they will surely come back to haunt me.
Uh Oh
Enthusiastic gold buyin' fella'
Curb Thy hopes
For but three more weeks
Gold will then be NAB
Indeedy
One if buy silver
Two if buy gold
Clever
Yes
1 ) Private japanese pension plans totaling $600billion may be underfunded by as much as 40%, and amounts overstated by as much as $250 billion to conceal about $250 billion in paper losses.
2 ) Non-performing bank loans are about $770 billion, at least more than $120 billion over official estimates. The report implies that problem loans may be closer to $1 trillion.
Another statement sounds fishy to me -- 'Japans Debt Trap' may be as much as $11 trillion, as much as 250 percent of gross domestic product. I 'm wondering on this last one if a decimal point go misplaced.
Here's a repost of yesterday's bombshell from Leland:
So -- is news being suppressed? Or was it incorrect? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, as some of our fellow Kitcoites would say.
News like that would empty the Japanese equities markets. Suppressing news like that is likely not to work for any length of time, if it is true.
Gold - Edged below the bottom of the original channel I had drawn ( shown in solid lines ) , but must drop to around 293 to hit the bottom of the dotted line channel. This is the channel I favor at the moment. Yes, I could fudge the lines of the original channel a bit, but I don't think that's what's going on at the moment. The question is, if gold hits 293, will it stop there? Perhaps the other metals will tell us something.
Silver - You may recall, I have never been too confident in the silver channel I was using, so I have no problem adjusting this channel to accomodate the recent low. However, the big overwhelming concern is the huge pennant pattern that must break soon. APH now seems very confident that silver will see 5.50, if not 5.00. I think Cyclist also is predicting something like this. D.A. seems confident that the positive fundamentals will soon take effect. ( Unless he has changes his mind this morning, since I haven't caught up on my reading ) . I tend to favor the downside, which of course has negative implications for gold.
Platinum - I think something is happening here. Platinum has barely, but clearly, broken through the bottom of my channel. This channel has held for a long time and has been very good at predicting reverses, especially when platinum hits the channel top. I could drop the channel bottom to accomodate the recent low. In fact, this would then accomodate the spike to last years low in early December, which I had chosen to ignore. But again, I don't think this is what is happening. I see two possibilities. One is shown in dotted lines. This I consider a worst case. It would lead to a near term low in platinum of 275-280. Another less radical solution would be if platinum is now forming a new channel bottom defined by connecting the recent lows to the lows in March. This is also a downward-trending channel, but not near as steep. Neither of these possibilities are consistent with RJ's very strong conviction that platinum is headed for the moon in the near future. This does worry me. So I guess I will wimp out and not take a big position either way in PL until things clear up.
Palladium - Is finally, and rapidly correcting. It still has a long way to go to even hit the long term upward trend line. It is interesting that PL started following PA down, but it almost totally ignored the last very steep drop in PA. However, PA futures also ignored this $40 drop in the spot price, which is really weird. This picture should start to clear up next week.
So, in conclusion, in paraphrasing one of my early stock brokers, I am very certain that if the metals don't go up next week, they will go down. Unless they remain unchanged. :- )
If anyone's crystal ball is clearer than mine, let's hear it.
DJ -
Makin' Channels
The Channel maester
El- Channelreeno
( Sorry, I saw an old episode of SNL with the "Copy Guy" in it. It was a stupid skit, but it cracked me up anyway. I guess I should be embarrassed, but I have a very thick skin ) .
Now. For proper decorum:
Mr. DJ
The reason palladium and platinum are moving so strangely, relative to each other, is that platinum is acting as a surrogate for palladium. There is still another run left in this palladium play but it will do so without me. I believe platinum is the next BIG mover. Near term and long term platinum looks like it will go back to its traditional trading range of $450 - $600 for the next couple years.
Yes
This white skunk is a wonderful omen.
This portends an imminent rise in gold
Or an imminent fall
Don't know really
I better go read up on skunks
And what vaticinate mysteries
Are brought forth by this anomaly
One question though
Which end was pointed at you?
This will help in my determination
Whether your sighting
Bodes glee or sorrow
Yes
This may simply be a function of too much vested in the damn thing. The "We have to save our phony bologna jobs" ( stolen from "Blazing Saddles" ) mentality is usually paid for in innocent blood. Many of those trusted with our safety and security have advanced far beyond their optimum level of incompetence.
Indeedy
It occurs to me that the written "phony bologna" looks more like "foney bal-og-na" than the "foney baloney" that is heard when spoken. Some things are better said than written. Some things are simply better left unsaid. Like this.
Uh Huh
The palladium market is theoretical at this time. Paper trading truly represents nothing in this game, for there is nothing to be had. Palladium is in the most critical supply shortage ever.
We will see industry ease their reliance on palladium by making the move back to platinum. This is happening as we speak. This move will take a year and will do little to affect slowed down assembly lines waiting for palladium today.
First delivery notice on the June contract will see palladium soar.
Platinum will gain the benefit of inefficient Russian production and their gross misunderstanding of what a "customer" actually is.
This is so
I have a friend who had his retail cellular phone store seized under eminent domain. The state offered to pay moving expenses and relocating costs, but this store was on a street that gets tens of thousands of cars passing every day. The value of visibility in incalculable in these equations. They wanted to move him off to some side street.
Now, here is the kicker:
The property was seized to make way for construction of a new theater complex ( to add to the nearly 300 screens in a 20 mile radius ) and supermarket. The state seized small businesses in favor of a bigger tax base coming out of the same property.
This is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind
It is criminal
Yes
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be//PETERPR.html
Note the reference to the Indos.
http://www.execpc.com/~jfish/fwiw/fwiw0245.txt
The question ( and answer ) man.
http://www.forbes.com/asap/97/0825/140.htm
And now we have the Dilbert Principle.
http://orion.oac.uci.edu/~cbrians/jokes/Management_and_Scott_Adams
This is on topic.Yes?I like it.Been there done that.
PS:RJ---If you don't know where gold is going,how the h*ll are
the mormons---err--morons--s'pose ta know.Huh?I say up,but not
any time REAL soon.Soon---but not REAL soon.OK ; )
Have a good weekend all.Things are a " little clearer " only.
As I have posted several times, I do not see a regular correlation like this fellow claims, but rather that peaks and valleys in tidal activity correlate with broad turning points in the markets -- valid over the 100 years of data. El Ninos correlate with the minima -- they come one year or so later. But El Ninos come at other times on these tidal graphs of mine, too.
What do my graphs say now? We are at an 18.67 year maximum. So -- one could argue that we are haveing a market peak right now, and that it will go down from now on. Unfortunately one could argue equally well that the US markets will abruptly rally at this time, too.
I think Donalds post about money escaping Japan for safer shores suggests that a US market rally is more likely for the short term -- the old 'flight to safety' bit. I think we are replaying the score of the 20's -- countries all over the world are deflating, with the US markets being the haven of safety. Eventually, as it was in 1929, the US markets will plummet, and we will join the rest of the world in the current deflationary cycle. I cannot tell you when this will happen -- this year -- next year, I don't know. At the latest, it may occur in 2010-2015, when we will have a major tidal activity minimum -- just like a really big one during the great depression. But -- again to be more precise this is turning point data only. The direction must be given by the investor. The reason I am bearish is that this is also the time when our intitlement debts will come due, and when the baby boomers start to retire in a big way -- no money to prop up the markets.
I think we will have our final US financial crisis ( of this Kondratiev cycle ) well before 2010-2015, IMHO. I will try to come up with a more short-term tidal model when I have time, as the current one has a fine resolution of only one month.
However, I cannot graph these parameters, but I can graph sunspot activity. What can I say right now? Currently we are in a period of increasing sunspot activity. Over the last 100 years or so, that correlates with rising stockmarket indices, and rising commodity prices, but only while the sunspot activity is increasing. When the sunspot activity peaks, the markets are likely to droop as well.
So -- if we take the sunspot indicator by itself, it is bullish for the next six months. Probability of a rally about 2x baseline probability. But when we go back to baseline probability -- watch out! That will be approximately the first or second quarter of 1999. Just about the right time for y2k to show its ugly head too, and mess up the foreign markets.
For those doubting thomases, just ignore my post. You are more than welcome to find your own long term indicators.
Needless to say we did not close the deal.
I do have one other thought on property ownership. Do you think there ever was a time in the US when any individual had absolute ownership of property that could not be confiscated for failure to pay property taxes?
I think Texas has special bankruptcy laws so that you cannot lose your primary residences, but I do not know if any other states have this. I think in a real crisis, people will band together and resist tax foreclosures -- such as what the farmers did in the great depression.
What I need to do is plot historical solar flares of a certain minimum intensity ( they are only during high sunspot activity ) against the markets. Hopefully a statistical pattern will arise. I think there is also a delay of about 24 hours or so from when you see the flare to when the emitted charged particles impact the Earth's ( electro ) magnetosphere. They travel at much less than the speed of light.
Please remember that I am not predicting anything precisely -- just giving probabilities based on sunspot activity alone. The investor must weigh the odds.
I think a clue to the 'awakening' of the average American is the steady rise in demand for gold coins. Gold bullion prices my go down again -- briefly, but not those of numismatic coins. Our politicians may think the average American is a stupid 'sheep' to be shorn. But -- I think that will not be for much longer. Here's to the future of America, and the free world.
Here's to everyone on Kitco -- the catalyst.
One scenario:
( 1 ) Y2K gets closer and scarier.
( 2 ) People realize most of what they own is "digital": appearing on monthly laser-printed statements, intangible.
( 3 ) A global tidal wave ensues of movement away from this type of wealth that is stored in computer systems preceived as fragile.
( 4 ) A general devaluation of currency vis-a-vis goods and tangible assets, i.e, inflation.
( 5 ) Over-reaction of governments exacerbates the problem into hyperinflation.
I have not heard many voices on this forum besides mine that foresee and are preparing for hyperinflation. Thanks for the support.
I do have one more little tidbit that may interest you. First the solunar cycles show how the sun and moon affect the earth -- through tides, at least. I suspect there is more than this, but even this basic phenomenon is significant. Secondly, what about sunspots? Sunspot patterns also correlate with the markets, as per my earlier post today, as well as someone else's. Well, the sun has a liquid surface, and is subject to tidal effects by the planets. I cannot tell you for sure just exactly how the solar tides ( and sunspots ) are connected with the motions of the planets, but it suffices to say they do correlate. Ray Tomes probably has the best website and several pages devoted to this. He is a major member of the world-renownd 'Institute for Cycles Analysis'. Incidentally there are very long solar radiation cycles that probably depend on planetary motion -- the sunspot minima, such as the mini-ice age of the maunder minimum. Very bad economic times during these solar minima. Fortunately I'm pretty sure we do not need to worry about these cycles within our lifetimes.
So, we have a link between market behavior and the motions of the moon and planets using only classical ( relativistic ) gravitational physics. Nothing fancy. Again, at this point Mike Sheller would say 'I told you so' because he already knows what we just figured out.
I have not had time to correlate solunar tidal data with gold bullion prices, but expect what has been found consistently in other similar studies. The solunar data preumably predicts turning points, but not the directions or magnitudes. So our current 18.67 year solunar tidal activity maximum ( Mar-April 1998 ) should be a long-term turning point for gold, and it looks pretty good as a bottom to me. Coincidence? Maybe not.
You should think about what you are doing right now, and ask yourself who you are talking to? Others, or just yourself?
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Date: Fri May 08 1998 22:48
Thomas ( New Doubts ) ID#372400:
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You say: Dollars are paper money. But you can buy the gold you love so much, so dollars are not only paper -- there is some gold in them, is it not?
If financial crisis will come, it will be a pretty slow process.
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You are quite right, it will be a slow proces. The mistake many people are making is that they think the process has just started. In fact, the process started quite some time ago. It is only in the last scene of the last act that the Euro was born. The curtain is coming down.
Don't be fooled by what we are finally able to see. We can only see the curtain, not all the work the stage hands have been doing all these many years to kep the USdollar on stage.
So you should restate you point as: it was a slow process, it started many years ago and the USG has been takeing advantage of it for far to long. The Euro now exists. Asia is looking for a alternative to the USdollar. The world is tired of the USdollar, the trend is no longer the friend to the USdollar.
IMO
you also state:
"You say: Dollars are paper money. But you can buy the gold you love so much, so dollars are not only paper -- there is some gold in them, is it not?"
The Indonesian's were saying the same thing about their currency a few short months ago. Now they can not afford gold bullion, but bullion is valued in other currencies. I suspect that currencies are ebbing and flowing around gold and not the reverse.
Hope this helps.